Investor Angst Is Up, Even As The Economy Keeps Rising - Insurance News | InsuranceNewsNet

InsuranceNewsNet — Your Industry. One Source.™

Sign in
  • Subscribe
  • About
  • Advertise
  • Contact
Home Now reading Top Stories
Topics
    • Advisor News
    • Annuity Index
    • Annuity News
    • Companies
    • Earnings
    • Fiduciary
    • From the Field: Expert Insights
    • Health/Employee Benefits
    • Insurance & Financial Fraud
    • INN Magazine
    • Insiders Only
    • Life Insurance News
    • Newswires
    • Property and Casualty
    • Regulation News
    • Sponsored Articles
    • Washington Wire
    • Videos
    • ———
    • About
    • Meet our Editorial Staff
    • Advertise
    • Contact
    • Newsletters
  • Exclusives
  • NewsWires
  • Magazine
  • Newsletters
Sign in or register to be an INNsider.
  • AdvisorNews
  • Annuity News
  • Companies
  • Earnings
  • Fiduciary
  • Health/Employee Benefits
  • Insurance & Financial Fraud
  • INN Exclusives
  • INN Magazine
  • Insurtech
  • Life Insurance News
  • Newswires
  • Property and Casualty
  • Regulation News
  • Sponsored Articles
  • Video
  • Washington Wire
  • Life Insurance
  • Annuities
  • Advisor
  • Health/Benefits
  • Property & Casualty
  • Insurtech
  • About
  • Advertise
  • Contact
  • Editorial Staff

Get Social

  • Facebook
  • X
  • LinkedIn
Top Stories
Top Stories RSS Get our newsletter
Order Prints
December 3, 2018 Top Stories
Share
Share
Post
Email

Investor Angst Is Up, Even As The Economy Keeps Rising

Star Tribune (Minneapolis, MN)

It's not hard to find reasons to fret about the state of the economy.

The housing market is slowing down. Light vehicle sales seem to have peaked last year, as highlighted by news that General Motors plans to lay off workers and idle North American plants.

News from the bond market seems worrisome, too, as investors have demanded a higher premium of late to buy a corporate bond that carries some risk rather than buy a Treasury note instead.

Then there are the dire headlines about ballooning big-company debt. A "$9 trillion corporate debt bomb is bubbling," according to CNBC, making it a "time to worry," as the New York Times put it.

Actually, it might be time to calm down.

The average economic up cycle since the end of World War II lasted only about five years, and this economic expansion has been chugging along now since summer 2009. It's certainly looking likely that an economy that has recently grown at a rate of around 3.5 percent will slow down next year.

And while popping asset bubbles and reworking the debt of overleveraged companies and households can be painful, there's not much reason to think those are the kind of economic troubles we are likely in for.

Some concern in the market last week followed the Federal Reserve's first-ever financial-stability report, released along with a speech from Fed Chairman Jerome Powell. One "vulnerability" the Fed identified was excessive debt by businesses and consumers.

Yet Powell, in his talk in New York, sure didn't sound alarmed. You would expect a lot of debt this late in an economic expansion, he said, and total debt hasn't reached the peak levels seen in the late 1980s and late 1990s. He likened the Fed's new report to an annual medical checkup for baby boomers like him, with his doctor saying he needs to pay attention to some things but overall he's a healthy guy.

Some of the angst over debt seems to center around all the money borrowed by just one company, AT&T. Just a summary of its debt runs to more than three pages of tiny type with a whopping total of more than $183 billion at the bottom.

Apologies if this sounds unsophisticated, but a big debt load is only a problem if the borrower doesn't have the money coming in to make the payments. In just the last quarter, AT&T had nearly $16 billion of cash earnings.

It's a similar story for some Minnesota companies that seem to have taken on a lot of debt, like Golden Valley-based General Mills. It needed to finance acquisitions, and so it had about $15.6 billion in debt as of the end of its last quarter, which was 2 1/2 times as much as it had in shareholder equity.

Depending on who is making the call, that much debt relative to equity likely means General Mills fits the definition of a highly leveraged company. But to add a little perspective, its cash earnings in its last full year came to about $3.3 billion.

Bankers use a shorthand to talk about corporate indebtedness, a simple calculation of total debt divided by the cash earnings, usually defined as earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. It's the money left over after cash expenses that should be available to pay back any loans.

In the case of General Mills, that ratio is about 4.8. That's not exactly a low number as such things go, and would be worrisome for a company in a highly cyclical business with unpredictable cash flow. In a recession, however, no one seems to stop eating Cheerios. In the worst year of the Great Recession of the last decade, General Mills managed to increase its operating profits.

Other big Minnesota companies that carry debt are even less leveraged than General Mills. Hormel Foods has made acquisitions in the recent past, but its outstanding debt makes up just a sliver of its total capital.

Target Corp. and Ecolab each have about half of their total capital made up of debt, but for both the total debt to annual cash earnings ratio shows they easily have the income to handle what they owe. Even frugal consumer households can be more heavily indebted than these companies are.

"Odd" is the word Bryce Doty used for what he's seeing in the markets lately, including hand-wringing over excessive debt. A senior vice president and fixed income portfolio manager for Minneapolis-based Sit Investment Associates, Doty has seen signs of strong economic performance he thought he would never live to see, like having more job openings than workers to fill them.

"The signs for the economy are green, green, green," he said. "Just so many different record things happening."

Yet in the markets he pays attention to, he said, "It's red, red, red."

The housing market slowdown? That's true, he said, but housing prices had been appreciating more than 5 percent a year, and the recent slowdown in price increases just means that the market is healthy but maybe not booming.

Corporate bonds have declined in relative value compared with Treasury bonds, too, and that's usually a bad sign for the credit markets. Yet Doty said he doesn't expect an increase in companies defaulting on what they owe.

"[The bond market] is giving all the same signals as though we're going into a downturn in the credit cycle. It looks identical to that," he said. "But it's a false signal."

Doty said he's often skeptical of economic news that's based on a survey, like for consumer confidence. Survey results are subjective, and if consumers feel slightly less great in November than they did in October that leads to a bad news headline.

But never mind the reported numbers, consumers are buying, as in 2018 consumers have been about as confident as they have been in 18 years. If in next month's survey most consumers have suddenly turned gloomy, well, that would be news.

"My predictions are good for 10 minutes, you know," Doty added. "Better get that article out."

___

(c)2018 the Star Tribune (Minneapolis)

Visit the Star Tribune (Minneapolis) at www.startribune.com

Distributed by Tribune Content Agency, LLC.

Older

Make your health-care needs known

Newer

Alliant’s Kelley Bernal is a Business Insurance Woman to Watch

Advisor News

  • Why federal retirement benefits are more complex than advisors realize
  • Why timing the market is still a retirement mistake and what to do instead
  • Business owners may be overlooking a key part of their financial picture
  • How smart investments prepare clients for inflation
  • Amid slew of corporate tax ideas, Newsom chose one likely to hit people’s premiums
More Advisor News

Annuity News

  • Best’s Special Report: U.S. Life/Annuity Industry Sees Bottom-Line Growth Despite 18% Decline in Total Income in First-Quarter 2026
  • Globe Life Inc. (NYSE: GL) Records 52-Week High Thursday Morning
  • Fortitude Re Completes $500 Million FABN Issuance
  • Reframing retirement income for greater certainty
  • Jackson Introduces Dow Jones Industrial Average Index Option, Flexible Premiums, Six-Year Rate Guarantee in Latest Registered Index-Linked Annuity Launch
More Annuity News

Health/Employee Benefits News

  • New Geriatrics and Gerontology Findings Reported from University of Pennsylvania (Health insurance, healthcare access, and their roles in the association between blood lead levels and epigenetic aging in United States adults): Aging Research – Geriatrics and Gerontology
  • Investigators at Avalere Health Report New Data on Atopic Dermatitis (Tralokinumab as a cost-saving treatment option for adults and adolescents with moderate-to-severe atopic dermatitis enrolled in US health insurance plans: a budget impact …): Skin Diseases and Conditions – Atopic Dermatitis
  • NATIONAL BRIEFS NATIONAL BRIEFS
  • Senate sends revenue-raising package taxing software, health plans to Newsom
  • Spotlight on Climate: The good news is that you're alive
More Health/Employee Benefits News

Life Insurance News

  • AM Best Affirms Credit Ratings of Everlake Life Group Members
  • Industry experts warn NAIC: Fix flawed IUL illustrations now
  • InsuranceAUM.com Celebrates a Historic 5th Annual Insurance Investment Executives’ Meeting in Chicago, Honoring Outstanding Industry Leaders and Spotlighting Next Event in Austin
  • Pacific Life Launches Income Horizon™ Collective Investment Trust Series, Transforming Lifetime Income into an Asset Class
  • AM Best Affirms Credit Ratings of Hyundai Marine & Fire Insurance Co., Ltd.
More Life Insurance News

NEWS INSIDE

  • Companies
  • Earnings
  • Economic News
  • INN Magazine
  • Insurtech News
  • Newswires Feed
  • Regulation News
  • Washington Wire
  • Videos

FEATURED OFFERS

Maximize Your FIA Case Results
Learn a repeatable process to review, reposition, and present FIA opportunities with confidence.

Aim higher during Annuity Awareness Month
Raise the bar with our diverse portfolio of Ascend annuities, backed by superior financial strength

You Could Be Losing Up to 20% of Your Commissions
GreenWave helps you find, fix, and prevent commission errors.

True Independence Means Having Choices
Cambridge offers flexibility, stability, proven tools—no private equity strings attached.

Life moves fast. Your BGA should, too.
Stay ahead with Modern Life's AI-powered tech and expert support.

Looking for stronger rates, amplified growth & real results?
Sentinel's Accumulation Protector Plus℠ Annuity is for clients wanting more from retirement planning

Press Releases

  • Prosperity Life GroupSM Launches Prosperity PathWaySM Series, Bringing Greater Choice and Flexibility to Retirement Income Planning
  • Senior Market Sales® Fortifies Annuity Reach With Acquisition of Retirement Planning Firm Stratton & Company
  • RFP #T01625
  • Rockwood Programs Appoints Kerry Ladouceur as Vice President, Financial Lines
  • JP Insurance Group Launches Commercial Property & Casualty Division; Appoints Joe Webster as Managing Director
More Press Releases > Add Your Press Release >

How to Write For InsuranceNewsNet

Find out how you can submit content for publishing on our website.
View Guidelines

Topics

  • Advisor News
  • Annuity Index
  • Annuity News
  • Companies
  • Earnings
  • Fiduciary
  • From the Field: Expert Insights
  • Health/Employee Benefits
  • Insurance & Financial Fraud
  • INN Magazine
  • Insiders Only
  • Life Insurance News
  • Newswires
  • Property and Casualty
  • Regulation News
  • Sponsored Articles
  • Washington Wire
  • Videos
  • ———
  • About
  • Meet our Editorial Staff
  • Advertise
  • Contact
  • Newsletters

Top Sections

  • AdvisorNews
  • Annuity News
  • Health/Employee Benefits News
  • InsuranceNewsNet Magazine
  • Life Insurance News
  • Property and Casualty News
  • Washington Wire

Our Company

  • About
  • Advertise
  • Contact
  • Meet our Editorial Staff
  • Magazine Subscription
  • Write for INN

Sign up for our FREE e-Newsletter!

Get breaking news, exclusive stories, and money- making insights straight into your inbox.

select Newsletter Options
Facebook Linkedin Twitter
© 2026 InsuranceNewsNet.com, Inc. All rights reserved.
  • Terms & Conditions
  • Privacy Policy
  • InsuranceNewsNet Magazine

Sign in with your Insider Pro Account

Not registered? Become an Insider Pro.
Insurance News | InsuranceNewsNet