City moves forward with Popham application
To seek the funds from a newly-created Hurricane Michael recovery grant program to stabilize and shore up the two-story, 6,000-square-foot building, built by the flamboyant
What exactly they'll do with the building if the project goes through, that remains unclear.
Monday's meeting, sought by newly-elected Commissioner
In his introduction, Mayor
In
"There have been all sorts of plans submitted, including maritime museum management," over the past decade, said Begos. "To me it's something that's been sitting for 10 years."
The mayor suggested one option might be to use the site for aquaculture to help commercial fishermen enter into business or to store gear. Begos also noted the city is behind in its reports to the
City Manager
Begos noted that because Triumph recently implemented new guidelines that require county endorsement of all awarded projects, and since the county commission has not yet made such an endorsement, that Triumph grant money is in jeopardy of being lost. "I am hopeful that we can still get that grant money," he said.
The second phase of the Popham project, which would involve elevating the building and rolling it back to connect it to the original property, would cost about
"The key to this, it has to be a project not eligible for
"We're taking a shot in the dark," he said. "It's a project with a lot of moving parts (but) if we don't take advantage of this money, it's gone."
Begos asked whether it would make more sense to tear it down and replace it. Nalley said the sense the city received from citizens following the hurricane, was that it was important to restore it and not tear it down.
"We're trying to lessen the financial impact for the city," Nalley said.
Commissioner
"It would not be permitted today," she said. "You tear it down and you can't use that property. It's over water; they would never permit it to happen today."
Commissioner
"I'm wary of building something, and we don't have a solid plan how to build it yet," she said. "I'm worried we may get this built and we don't have anyone committed to running business there that could be profitable."
Nalley said the grant application calls for a procurement policy and cost estimates, and "is more in line with proving it meets eligibility requirements.
"The use is up for further discussions. We may look at some alternative uses for that building," he said. "Without this money there won't be any building."
Begos underscored his belief alternative uses ought to considered if and when the time comes to implement one.
"Our whole world has changed since they wrote this in 2008-10, when there was still hundreds of oyster boats working the bay," he said. "Right now we essentially don't have an oyster industry. (This plan) is completely out of date and wouldn't make any sense. That whole thing would have to be totally reworked."
Elliott said the site might be used to create covered boat slips, and audience member and
"I'm just concerned is we don't currently have a project we can use," said Grove. "I feel that building has a strong historical significance. I do feel the in-water component of it can help pay for it. We need to start over with the use we might want to have with this building."
"They're not going to prevent it from being renewed," said Grove.
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Vroegop also questioned the validity of submitting the project for a fund designed to help buildings damaged by Hurricane Michael, and shared photos she took about three weeks before the storm that indicated extensive damage to the foundation.
"I think you're asking the question to the wrong people," said Begos. "I think there's no question that Hurricane Michael did additional enormous damage."
Vroegop stood by her opposition. "I object to it," she said. "We've had historic resources that are at least as valuable as that. Anybody remember the Venezelos? Anybody been here that remembers the Sea Dream?"
Commissioners also heard from
"It's about incentivizing your property so it doesn't cost city residents anything," said Nalley. It wouldn't cost residents anything if we find the right tenant."
"What are the down sides of getting this grant? How will it handcuff us? If it doesn't handcuff us in any way, I say go for it," he said.
"I feel like we owe it to our people," said Begos. "It might generate 10 or 15 or 20 jobs. Our tourists do love these historic buildings; it sets us apart from a Destin. I think it's worth taking a shot."
"I think it's a good idea," he said. "I don't understand that it totally commits the city to not selling it in the future."
Miller suggested the building be called the
Sawyer's son,
Sawyer was cautious about giving the project a ringing endorsement. "My heart tells me to save it; my logic is I'm a little fuzzy on that," he said. "You're going to run into things you didn't expect."
George, who voted for the grant application, saved her comments to the end.
"I hate the situation we've been put here. The time to discuss this was when the grant opportunity (presented itself)," she said. "We have a poor system of vetting and approving grants. I hope we can work to change that process so city commissioners and the public will have input (on) grant projects.
"I feel like we're being put in a bad positon. We'll never know if there was another project that would fit these requirements," George said. "We were handed this grant application when we came in the door. That's not the way I want to do the city business."
Just prior to the commission's unanimous OK, Grove signaled that she had reservations about continuing the city's partnership on the project on the maritime museum.
"They have a track record of non-performance," she said. "The track record there gives us a lot of information."
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