In Illinois’ Ongoing Budget Crisis, She’s the Woman Deciding Who Gets Paid
Indeed, being
If the financial pressures weren't enough, the state's ongoing fiscal problems have transformed the comptroller's office from a sleepy hideout for good government advocates into a major political battlefield.
Mendoza, a Democrat who previously served as a state legislator and
The two officials disagree on basic principles of running government, ranging from the prospect of letting
But the rivalry has also become very personal. Rauner has called Mendoza a "puppet" of
The two have never had a face-to-face meeting to discuss the state's finances, Mendoza says.
"People ask, 'How are you possibly navigating through that?'" Mendoza says of the financial officials in other states. "I say, 'You do what you have to do.' It's all I know: Right now as comptroller is a bad time.'"
And things may not get much better for a while.
But
Governing met with Mendoza recently in her office in the Thompson Center in
The following are edited highlights from that conversation.
On the severity of
"I think we're in a class of our own," Mendoza says. That's not just because of the feedback from her colleagues at the
"It's not so much the nuts and bolts of the money, but what it means when people aren't getting paid," she says. "It means businesses closing down. It means people getting laid off from their jobs, [and] the more businesses that close, the more people lose their jobs, the less tax money is entering into the state coffers. It's a really, really vicious cycle."
And then there's the fact that, with the state owing so much for medical and basic human services, her actions can literally affect who lives and who dies. "Even when I was running, I always thought, yes, I get to advocate for vulnerable populations or people who need our help. But I never really thought I would be making life-and-death decisions."
On deciding who gets paid first
With only a little amount of money to dole out every day, Mendoza says she prioritizes payments to certain groups, such as services for sick and vulnerable populations, children or adults with disabilities, and schools and colleges.
But even then, there are tough calls. "It really is like triage," she says. There are three categories of recipients, she says: those that will definitely do better once they receive the money the state owes them; those that might recover; and those that "no matter how many resources you put into them, are beyond helping. That's what we don't always want to talk about."
What about bondholders?
Even when the state's budget crisis reached its worst point last year, Mendoza repeated the message over and over again that the state would pay its bondholders, no matter what. She said that even as the state was being threatened with contempt of court for not paying Medicaid providers quickly enough.
"I think we instilled a lot of confidence in the markets when I said that, no matter what, we would not default on our debt service payments. No matter what. They could literally take that to the bank," she says.
"I understood that, even if I wanted to make, from a moral perspective, the payments to the most vulnerable groups," she says, "if I were to default on debt service payments, I'm going to hurt the very people we're trying to help today, because we'll never have access any kind of capital to make other, more important payments down the road."
On Rauner forcing a crisis
At the same time, though,
Mendoza thinks Rauner wanted to create chaos with another downgrade, pointing to his support for federal legislation allowing states to seek bankruptcy-like protections to reduce their pension debts (they are not legally able to now) and his dismissive attitude toward the possibility of
"I think the governor, absolutely, on purpose, created this fiscal crisis. I say that without equivocation. Yes," she says.
"On the very eve getting a budget passed, when we were teetering on the brink of going into junk bond status, here I am telling the markets, 'Don't worry, I'm going to make the debt service payments no matter what.' And then
"I thought, oh my God, he is metaphorically giving them the finger," she says. "This madman is running this state into the ground."
On the reasons for the Debt Transparency Act
Most states, including
This became such a big problem that, in 2013, the legislature required the executive branch to inform the comptroller's office every October of how many bills were still left at the agencies. But Mendoza says that once-a-year requirement still left her with no way to assess agency budgets in real time.
So she pushed a bill to require monthly reports from the agencies. The bill passed the legislature, but, Rauner vetoed it, calling it an attempt to have Mendoza's office "micromanage" executive agencies. "That's a make-work bill," he later added. "We're going to waste a lot of money generating reports that are monthly that are going to be almost immediately worthless." He suggested the better approach would be to upgrade the state's computer systems, so that agencies could make that information available at any time.
Mendoza pressed her case with lawmakers, and pitched it to editorial boards.
Mendoza says the law will help lawmakers conduct better oversight of state agencies and draft more realistic budgets.
"Now, if the
On how the current crisis compares with the crises of the Blagojevich era
As a legislator, Mendoza supported legislation calling for the impeachment of Gov.
"I know what it's like to impeach a governor," she says. "I never thought I would say, having lived through that experience, that we would have a worse governor than
"People can critique me for saying that all they want, but it's the truth. At the very least, under
On how
Mendoza says
But paying down
And she thinks there's no way for
"Whoever the next governor is will have to deal with it, because it just continues to get worse and worse and worse. We're going to have to realize that the time has come that we have to pay up. We have to pay those obligations. We have to honor those contracts," she says.
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