White House Issues Transcript of News Briefing by Press Secretary Jean-Pierre on May 25
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MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Hi, everybody.
Q: Hi!
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Good afternoon. Two things for you at the top. I want to provide you with a brief update on where things stand with ongoing budget negotiations.
The President's negotiation -- negotiating team has had productive discussions with the Speaker's team. And those discussions continue.
You've heard all the congressional leaders make it clear that default is not an option. The President has said that, the Speaker has said that, and we want the American people to understand that as well.
Preventing default is not a matter of debate. It's basically respons- -- the responsibility of
What is up for debate, though, is the budget. And that's what these discussions are about: two very different fiscal visions for our country and our economy.
The President's plan invests in America and grows the economy from the bottom up and the middle out. And it does that while reducing the deficit by nearly
That's where these negotiations began.
So, look, the President and his negotiating team are going to continue to fight for the President's vision and for his priorities, and they're going to do that in good faith.
At the end of the day, everyone understands that the only way to move forward here is with a bipartisan, reasonable agreement on the budget that can win support from both sides -- from both
So, there's no alternative to this. This is the path that we need to take. And that's what we're focused on to make sure that we're getting things done for the American people.
So, before I go into questions, I just want to say a couple of words about
Today, three years after the murder of
This morning, the President also vetoed a congressional Republican-led disa- -- disapproval resolution that would have nullified crucial police reforms many enacted in the
The President has repeatedly said we have an obligation to make sure that all people, all Americans are safe, and that public safety depends on public trust. It is a core policy of this administration to provide law enforcement the re- -- the resources they need for effective accountability community policing.
And that's why, last year, the President signed an Executive Order on Advancing Effective Accountability -- Accountable Polic- -- Policing and Criminal Justice Practices to
The administration has made significant progress implementing these goals, as detailed in a
So, today, once again,
Okay. With that, Josh, good to see you, my friend.
Q: Good to see you, Karine.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Okay.
Q: How are you doing on the jetlag?
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: (Laughs.) A little better. A little better. How are you doing?
Q: Uhh, I could be doing better.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Jetlag is real, folks.
Q: So, two questions.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Yes.
Q: Two subjects. First, given the status of the debt limit talks that you just outlined, should
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Look, and I got this question -- I can only speak for the President. I can't speak for the Speaker and how he pro- -- he chooses to move forward with
What I can say is that the President could -- could deal with this issue anywhere he is. And so, I'll just leave it as that.
Q: Secondly, the Supreme Court said in a ruling today that wetlands can only be regulated under the Clean Water Act if they have a, quote, "continuous surface connection" to a larger, regulated body of water. Does the
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, a couple of things. I know that this decision was clearly made, as you just laid out, today.
So, look, the way that we see it: It aims to -- the Court's decision today aims to take our country backwards. It will jeopardize the sources of clean drinking water for farmers, businesses, and millions of Americans.
Look, the Clean Water Act is the reason why America's lakes today are swimmable, why we can fish in our streams and rivers, and why safe drinking water comes out of our -- of our taps.
So, it was passed, as we all know, by a bi- -- bipartisan majority in
So, our legal team -- as you can imagine, as you all know -- is carefully reviewing the decision. And we'll have more to say on this soon.
But know this: that
Go ahead.
Q: I have a couple questions on the debt ceiling. We're now just seven days out from the
Should people be worried that they might not see a deposit next week with things like
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So our message has -- continues to be and will -- it has been very clear that we are standing -- this is a President that's standing up against what
That's what the President is fighting for. That's what we want to make sure Americans know. This is what we've been trying to do these past couple of weeks.
And we're fighting against
So what the people should know -- what the American people should know: that we are not taking any hostages here. Default is not an option. We want to reduce the deficit, which is why the President put -- put -- made sure to make that a priority in his
And we are negotiating with
So, that's our focus. We're fighting for the American people, and that's what we're going to continue to do.
Q: When Americans hear "default is not an option," can they also hear a guarantee from the
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: We're going to do everything that we can to make sure that default is indeed not an option. And hear -- it's not just from us; we heard from all four leaders in this past -- in this week -- from Speaker McCarthy as well, as well as the President -- say that default is not an option. So that's what we're moving towards.
Go ahead.
Q: Thanks, Karine. Has the President spoken with Speaker McCarthy since their meeting on Tuesday?
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: I don't have a call to preview for you at this time.
Q: Okay. Well, why haven't they talked?
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: The President is giving negotiators the space and the time to negotiate. We see their conversation as being productive. I can let you know -- and some of you may already know this -- they met virtually. The negotiators on both sides met virtually at 11:30 this morning. And we see this as a productive conversation, and it's moving forward in -- hopefully in the path where we would see a bipartisan, reasonable budget negotiation.
Q: As these negotiations have progressed, there have been some concerns from progressive lawmakers about what the
So what kind of assurances can you provide
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, here's the thing: The President is fighting to protect clean energy manufacturing. He's fighting to protect healthcare. He's fighting to protect student debt relief and to lower costs for prescription drugs and save the government money. That is what the President is fighting for. That's what you saw in his
And so, you saw this. The President said this on Sunday. He's not going to agree on a deal that -- that protects a
He's not going to agree to a deal that protects
And so, we have laid out what the President is fighting for. And he's going to continue to do that.
Q: But what I'm not hearing here, though, is that you're -- you're -- you're not ruling out cutting spending beyond this current fiscal year's levels.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: What I've -- what I've said, and I've been very clear: We're just not going to read out and not -- I'm not going to negotiate from here. I'm not going to read out conversations that we have from here.
What I can say is -- lay out what the President said on Sunday. He's been very clear what he's fighting for. Healthcare, right? Clean energy manufacturing. He's helped -- he's fighting for -- to make sure that student debt relief exists.
All of those things are really key to what the President is fighting for.
He is not for taking away people's healthcare; we're talking about 21 million people. He's not for that. And -- and pushing people into poverty? No. He's not for that either.
So I'm not going to get into specifics of the negotiation, but that's what the President has been very clear on.
Q: And lastly, is the President confident that he can deliver the necessary Democratic votes on any deal that he agrees to with Speaker McCarthy?
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, look, a little bit about that. Look, I'm not going to get to speak to exact number, right? That's not something I'm going to do from here. But the President and the Speaker have said the only way forward is to have a bipartisan, reasonable budget agreement that's going to need both
And if you look at votes -- votes during the Trump administration -- 70 to -- 200
And of course, the
So we know this vote will require, again,
Go ahead, Joey. And then I'll come back down.
Q: Thanks, Karine. Secre- -- Treasury Secretary
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: No, we have not. That's something for -- that's something for the
Q: Well, so, are you -- is the
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: What I -- what I can really say about that is I can, you know, guess -- forward -- you know, send you to, refer you to Secretary Yellen, who has said that it would be as early as
She has been pretty much communicating with all of you what the X-date is to the American people. And that's all I can really share with you.
Q: But -- so the deal needs to be approved by
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Well, we -- she has said the likely -- the likely X-date is
Go ahead.
Q: Thanks, Karine. Rep.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: I don't have a timeline for you. We want this to be done as soon as possible. That's why the negotiators have been working around the clock -- 24 hours, practically -- to get this done.
I just mentioned they met at 11:30 virtually. And, of course, this is a priority, and we certainly see the urgency of getting this done as soon as possible.
But as it relates to the debt limit, this -- this can be done, as
Q: Can you at least give us a sense of whether negotiators are getting close? I know they met this morning.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Well, I've said they've been pr- -- it's been productive. So, clearly, that means there continues to be a path forward. I not going to get ahead of this. I'm not going to get ahead of the -- the negotiation process.
But as I've said many times: They are productive. They continue to talk. Negotiation -- you need to have a conversation. And that's continuing. And I think that's an important -- important step forward that we're seeing.
Q: And we have reporting showing that both sides are edging close to a deal with parties just
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: I'm just not --
Q: Do you have a --
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: I'm not going to get into details from here.
Q: Okay. And I have a quick one on
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, look, we've seen the report of
We have not seen any reason to adjust our own nuclear posture -- you've heard us say that before -- nor any indications
Speaking to that particular issue, this is yet another example of making irresponsible and provocative choices. So we remain committed to collective defense of the
Go ahead, Weijia.
Q: Thank you, Karine. When you say that default is not an option, is that equal to saying -- to guaranteeing that there will be a deal? Or is there a viable plan B?
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, what I can say is: There is no -- there really -- this is the only option that we have, is for
That is not an option. So, we're go- -- we're being consistent here. We've been saying that they need to do their job. It is their constitutional duty. It's been done 78 times since 1960. That's what we're saying.
As it relates to the budget negotiation, those are continuing. We are -- want to make sure that gets done as soon as possible, as well.
It is important for the American people to see what we value and what we see in a bipartisan way that we're going to present to the American people, clearly also to
Q: So if there is not a deal, there is no plan B?
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: What I can say is the only option right now is for the -- for
Q: And one more on something the President said during his news conference. He suggested that MAGA Republicans may use default for political gain. Does he include
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, look, we are working in good faith with
As it relates -- you heard me talk about specifically about some -- what some
So, we're going to flag that for all of you. We're going to flag that for the American people.
But the Speaker was very clear last week. He said -- actually, this week -- he said that when it comes to default, it's off the table.
Q: Thank you.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Go ahead.
Q: Thanks, Karine. First of all, a housekeeping question. It's been few days since we've heard from the President directly on the state of negotiations. I'm wondering if we might hear from him either in the
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: I would say: Stay tuned, my friend.
Q: "Stay tuned." All right.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Stay tuned.
Q: I'll consider that.
To follow up on Weijia's last question, the former President is in the area. He was spotted on --
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Which one?
Q: Former
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Okay. There's a few formers out there --
Q: Yes, there are.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: -- so you have be clear.
Q: He was spotted across the river at the LIV Golf Tournament that's coming up this weekend here in the area. And a reporter from the New York Times covering the tournament spoke with him, and the former President showed, in fact, that he had recently spoken with Speaker McCarthy, said that they had a "little, quick talk," and he predicted that the debt talks were going to be -- getting a deal would be harder than people were expecting.
I wonder if the
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, look, the Speaker is allowed to speak to whoever he chooses and wants to speak to. So I'm not going to, certainly, dive into that or step in -- step on that.
What I can speak to is what the Speaker has said very publicly himself just this week: that default is off the table.
We are continuing to have productive conversations. Negotiations continue.
Again, I just mentioned how the -- the two teams met this morning virtually at 11:30. That is a good sign. That is a good sign that those talks are certainly continuing.
And, look, we have said we think there's a path forward. There's a path forward to a bipartisan, reasonable budget agreement. And -- and as long as both sides understand that no one is going to get everything that it wants, then we can get there. We can get there.
This is about the American people. This is about American families, making sure that we are meeting their needs. And that -- that should be the focus.
Q: So, that's not an indication of bad faith if the Speaker is either receiving --
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: I mean, all I --
Q: -- or placing a call --
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Look, I mean --
Q: -- to the former President?
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Look, I can't -- I don't know what the Speaker said to the former President. I cannot speak to that. You would have to speak -- ask the Speaker directly.
What I can speak to is what we heard from -- direct from the Speaker directly and what his team -- what his team is doing. It is co- -- we're continuing to have these good-faith conversations. That's what's important. The negotiations continue. And so I think that's what's important here.
I -- I cannot speak to a conversation -- a hearsay conversation that is occurring -- that occurred. I just can't speak to that.
Q: Then on another topic. As I was following
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: How'd it go?
Q: -- and his candidacy, it appeared that there were some members of the President's team who were doing the same and maybe enjoying a little bit of the glitches that appeared to be happening.
I wonder if you have any reaction --
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Was there a glitch?
Q: -- to that but, also, to the fact that
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, look, I'm not going to speak to
As you know, we follow the law here. This is an administration that cares about the law and about not -- certainly not using taxpayer money to campaign from here. That is something that we've been pretty consistent. And we've also -- you know, I just got questions from your colleagues about the President's policies and his agenda and how he sees moving forward, especially on the economy.
And so, honestly, we just haven't had the time to take in any rapid unscheduled disassemblies, if you will. And so, I'll just leave it at that.
I think -- I'll just add, really, you know, the President's -- the President's focus is on middle-class Americans, is on working Americans, making sure that we deliver an economy that works for them, that doesn't leave them behind, that builds an economy from the bottom up, middle out. That's our focus.
Q: I know there is a gather right now.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Right now?
Q: Yeah.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Oh, it's early.
Q: But if it's possible to keep going after the gather?
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Okay. Okay, well --
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Okay. Wow. Okay.
Go ahead, Nadia.
Q: Thank you, Karine. Do you worry that the spending cuts might affect
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, as you've heard us say many times before, the President has been clear that it will -- he's going to continue to work with our allies and partners to support
So we have been gratified and pleased to see the bipartisanship -- the bipartisan support for
Q: I have a quick question on
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Sure.
Q:
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, look, I'm going to leave it to -- to others analyze
But I'll just say this -- that when it comes to
These designations and other actions have frozen the
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Okay. Okay.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Okay. What time do they need to gather?
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Right now?
Q: Just six more.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Okay. (Laughs.)
Why don't -- doesn't the pool gather and I'll take -- I'll take a couple more -- a couple more.
Go ahead, Garrett.
Q: Thanks, Karine.
Q: Everybody needs -- it's open press, so everybody needs to gather.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Okay. Well, we'll -- we'll do the best that we can.
Go ahead, Garrett.
Q: Thanks, Karine. On
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, look, let me just first say -- and the President is going to speak to this in -- in just a few moments, so, certainly, I'm sure you'll -- you'll take his re- -- his -- his response to this important appointment.
But I want to recognize Chairman Milley's lifetime of service to our country. The President is immensely grateful to Chairman Milley, who has been a close and trusted adviser to
And
And so, look, he's immensely talented. He's -- it has been amazing to -- to watch this process. He's clearly going to make history. He's already made history as our nation's first Black service chief. And he has been an important voice helping make our armed forces more inclusive, including through the video he recorded three years ago, just after the murder of
So, clearly, this is important. We are -- the President is proud to -- to nominate him. I'm going to let the President speak more about the importance of his historical choice.
Q: Can we follow up on -- on the George Floyd anniversary? Has the
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: No. It's a good question. We just don't have any calls to preview. As you know, the President has spoken and met with the family multiple times. And they were -- they were here recently at the
Go ahead, Ed.
Q: Thanks, Karine.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: There's all -- there's all -- there's always been urgency. We have called this out over and over again -- how urgent it is to get this done. It is just one more piece of evidence, if you will.
So, we've been laying out, again, for months and months, how catastrophic this could be if Con- -- if the
This is -- has to be done in a bipartisan way. This has been done 78 times since 1960. We have been calling out the urgency of getting the debt limit done -- for
And so, this is just another piece of evidence that default should not be an option. It is not an option. All the leaders who have met -- the congressional leaders who have met with the President have said default is off the table.
Q: So, even if a deal is done today, the process could still take us into the middle of June to get it to the President's desk and to sign it. So, is there a message then to companies, people about that, that could be past the X-date?
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, look, as I've said, what the -- our message to the Pres- -- from the President to the American people is that we are fighting. We are fighting to make sure that we protect American families. We are fighting to make sure that -- that, you know, we're continuing to build a economy from the bottom up, middle out.
This is what we are fighting for. This is what the President is fighting for.
We're going to continue to tell and continue to say what we've been saying for months, which is:
So, this is an important, important -- clearly constitutional duty that
Q: And (inaudible) can guarantee that any deal will be fast-tracked?
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: We've already said how urgent this is. We've been very clear about how urgent it is to deal with the debt limit.
Again, this is another piece of evidence that we are seeing that lays that out -- that lays out that default is not an option.
Q: Thanks, Karine. I know that the President is going to chat.
MS. JEAN-PIERRE: All right. Thank you. Thanks, guys.
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