How much was pilot error a factor in the Boeing 737 MAX crashes?
"Pilots trained in
Graves was repeating the main points in a report written by two pilots at a major
That case for pilot error as the major cause of the crashes seems close to a surrogate for what
Yet two flight-simulator sessions replicating the conditions on the doomed flights contradict Graves' contention that better trained pilots would have escaped disaster. And some Western-trained pilots criticize the report as based on unverified assumptions and minimizing the intense stress
A good pilot on a bad day
"I'm disappointed with those who sit in their lofty chairs of judgment and say this wouldn't have happened to
The flight crew on the
They did so by flipping two cut-off switches. But then the heavy forces on the jet's tail prevented them from moving the manual wheel in the cockpit that would have corrected the nose-down attitude.
"What would the best pilot do on their worst day with all of this sensory overload?" the veteran
"The manufacturer isn't supposed to give us airplanes that depend on superhuman pilots," he added. "We should have airplanes that don't fail the way these airplanes failed."
But the veteran pilot said that he understands completely how the pilots, failing to budge the manual wheel, in desperation abandoned the
Reenactment in a flight simulator
Countering the notion that
Starting from the point where the Ethiopian pilots hit the cut-off switches and stopped MCAS from operating, the
Even though the
To get out of it, the pilots used an old aviator technique called the "roller coaster" method -- letting the yoke go to relieve the forces on the tail, then cranking the wheel, and repeating this many times.
This technique has not been in
A similar experiment, though without the use of the roller-coaster technique, was performed by a European airline pilot and 737 flight instructor who runs a popular Youtube channel called Mentour Pilot about aviator skills.
His simulator session ended as the pilot pulled with all his might on the yoke to try to keep the jet's nose up, while the co-pilot beside him tried futilely to move the manual wheel.
In response to criticism of the design of MCAS that led to these struggles in the cockpit,
The company has said that the accidents come down to "a chain of events," and Chief Executive
Their report doesn't let the company off the hook -- it states that
In an interview, McGregor and Cordle cited "rather reckless and in some cases gross negligence by the pilots in how they approached the emergencies."
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McGregor conceded that any pilot put in the scenario the Ethiopian crew faced "would have a very difficult time recovering." But he dismissed the simulator re-creations as starting from "the most difficult part of that 6-minute flight" and contended that the pilots should have been able to stop the sequence of events earlier.
He pointed to the lack of experience of the Ethiopian first officer, who had only 361 total flying hours in his career, when 1,500 hours is needed to join a major
And he cited as a disastrous mistake that the engines, which were set at full thrust for take-off, were never throttled back when the plane got into trouble, causing the jet to exceed its certified maximum speed and greatly reducing any window of opportunity to recover.
The Ethiopian pilots, he said, didn't display "basic, fundamental flying skills to control the aircraft."
One takeaway from their report is that adequate pilot training will be central to having the MAX return to flight safely around the world.
The authors said they disagree with
Cordle said he has conducted studies of foreign airlines over several years for a leading airplane lessor and found some to be "absolutely horrible" in their pilot training.
Enormous pressure in the cockpit
Three pilots interviewed for this story said the report from McGregor and Cordle is very one-sided, and all objected to what they saw as blinkered chauvinism in this view of
"It's unfair to put the blame on the crew solely," said the Mentour pilot, who asked not to be named as he doesn't speak for his airline. "As in any air accident, there are going to be a combination of factors, one being mistakes by the crew. But they shouldn't have been put in that position in the first place.
"The pilots were put under an enormous amount of pressure and at a very low altitude," he said. "If you put any number of normally trained crews in that situation, you would have a lot of different outcomes, and most of them wouldn't be very good."
And he said his training of 737 flight crews has shown him that hours of flying time does not equate to pilot competency. "I've seen poor captains with 30,000 hours and very good first officers with just 300 or 400 hours," he said.
But he said
"It's not the reality, and reality rules," Ferhm said. "The aircraft have to be safe for these 300,000 trained pilots."
He added it's clear this is possible, because of how
That update, Fehrm said, "has all the considerations it should have had from the start."
The veteran
He said he's spent a lot of time flying with local pilots in western
"I'd put them up against American airline pilots any day," he said. "They are exceptional airmen."
And he criticized
"That can't be good," he said. "I cannot believe
A former senior executive at
He said that the universe of customer airlines that
He added that "we and Airbus should have been more on top of things" in terms of offering more pilot training support.
And yet, acknowledging the key role of
"We put the pilots into a bad situation," he said. "MCAS put them in a situation they were ill-prepared to handle. You wonder about the detailed systems engineering that went into that."
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