DAYBELL TRIAL: Phone call between Chad, Lori and friend Melanie Gibb played for the court
Everything came to a head when Gibb confronted Vallow and Daybell over the phone on
Daybell is charged with conspiracy to commit murder, first-degree murder, insurance fraud and grand theft in connection to the deaths of 16-year-old
Gibb met Daybell during the summer of 2017, but only briefly. Her introduction to Vallow was far more significant. After meeting Vallow at church in
“They seemed to be attracted to each other, that caught my attention,” Gibb testified, talking about her observing Vallow and Daybell together at the conference.
Though the two were both married, Gibb recalled Vallow talking about how she and Daybell were together and married in a previous life.
During the confrontational phone call, Daybell referred to Gibb as “sweet Melanie,” as he answered the phone and quickly turned it on speaker so Vallow could join in the conversation. Gibb almost immediately asked for clarification on
At that point, Daybell piped in and said that knowing J.J.’s whereabouts would put Gibb in a bad position and they wanted to keep her protected. When Gibb inquired why Vallow had told the police J.J. was with Gibb in
“Most of my family is working against me,” Vallow said over the phone. “... I don’t want anyone to know (where J.J. is) so nobody has to worry about it.”
During the first couple months of their friendship, Gibb observed Vallow with
Vallow also told Gibb that J.J. was safe and happy, but also referenced Kay working to find her, noting that law enforcement was working with Kay in “some dark capacity.” Vallow also suggested that Kay was threatening her — upon hearing this in the courtroom, Kay shook her head.
Vallow and Gibb then began discussing prophets in the Book of Mormon, some of whom were asked to flee in order to be safe, which Vallow suggested was asked of her.
“God doesn’t work in darkness,” Gibb said in response.
“Darkness is knocking on the door all the time,” Vallow said. “And I promise you that I have done nothing wrong in this case.”
Throughout the phone call, Vallow repeatedly expressed love for Gibb.
“If you really loved me, you wouldn’t have told the police that I had J.J. with me,” Gibb said.
Gibb referenced the timeline of events connected to Daybell and Vallow’s relationship — the death of
“This doesn’t sound like God’s plan to me,” Gibb said.
At that point in the call, Daybell discusses Tammy’s death, saying that she had been getting weaker and that her heart was failing her.
“All these conspiracy theories make me sick to my stomach,” Daybell said over the phone. “... You just have to have faith.”
According to Gibb, Daybell had previously shared theories that Tammy was going to die young and that he would have a second chapter of his life, possibly referencing his marriage to Vallow
“You know me, Mel,” Vallow said in response. “This does not sound like you. It sounds like you’ve been influenced by somebody dark.”
Gibb recalls Vallow bringing up light and dark concepts with her in
Daybell also created a ranking system for light and dark beings, along with discerning how many times people had lived on Earth. It was around this time,
“They seemed to be very interested in each other,” Gibb said.
Over the course of their friendship, Vallow shared that her mission on Earth was to gather 144,000 women, referencing the Bible’s description of gathering
On the recorded phone call, Gibb continued to argue with Vallow, saying that something didn’t feel right.
“This is not the behavior of someone who has seen Jesus Christ,” Gibb said.
Court adjourned at
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