After social media frenzy, Meadville Medical Center officials explain need for facilities fees [The Meadville Tribune, Pa.]
Feb. 9—Lorna Parker of
They both were shocked and angered at the same time upon receiving the fees.
"There was a sign in the office that there could be an additional charge, but no chart, no range of what it could be," she said. "It was a
It prompted her to call both
"To me, it's insane how they can justify it," Parker said of the fee. "They said, 'This will go toward your deductible,' but you still have to pay it. Maybe twice in 20 to 30 years we've gotten close to our deductible."
Parker said she's used to paying a copay on the insurance plan she has with her husband, but still can't fathom the facilities fee.
"You think I'd be mad if it was just
Daughter-in-law Ashley, who went for other services during her visit, was billed
"It was for lab results," the younger Parker said of the
MMC officials have been hoping to clarify billing and fees like the one the Parkers received in the wake of a backlash on social media the past several months.
They say the financial impact on patients comes down to health care billing rules and an individual's insurance coverage.
Split billing
Fallout hit a fever pitch in early November, according to hospital officials, after Meadville OB/GYN patients complained on social media about being billed both a physician's service and a facility fee.
Hospital officials explained to
Meadville OB/GYN became part of MMC in
"Some of (those specialty outpatient clinics) have been part of the hospital for a long time," said
Officials said the separate bills, while new for OB/GYN patients, are part of the standard billing process for specialty clinics.
The hospital outpatient departments have to meet federal accreditation standards for hospitals, which are higher than those of physician-based clinics, according to MMC officials. The higher federal standards mean higher associated costs than a private physician office.
Under health care billing rules, seeing a doctor in an outpatient, or provider-based, clinic that's owned by the hospital means separate physician and facilities charges. Even though the clinic may be away from the main hospital, it still is considered part of the hospital.
However, MMC's primary care doctor sites — where people get the majority of primary health care — are not provider-based locations.
"So you can go to go for annual wellness check-up and there's no technical (or facilities) fee. That's intentional," said
Billing backlash
The backlash against MMC built up over bills related to OB/GYN and what patients thought was part of preventive care.
Insurance companies often cover routine preventive care — resulting no or only a small copay insurance fee for the patient.
However, often a patient's visit — especially a visit to a specialty service outpatient clinic — may evolve from a preventive checkup into something more than what was originally scheduled.
"If during that checkup, the patient says, 'As long as we're here I've been noticing this....,' and the doctor orders additional workups, then that is no longer a preventative checkup," Rhoten said. "And that would become — potentially and depending on every insurance that is different — a billable visit to that patient."
"Even if they did originally schedule a preventative checkup, it can easily become more than that," Rhoten said. "It can evolve into that."
Individual fallout
With fees potentially adding up depending on what is asked and ordered at a checkup has critics of the fees wondering if people will avoid future exams.
Parker, for one, said the facilities fee charge has made her apprehensive to get a mammogram and rethink her health care options.
"For years I was paying
Last spring, Andrae received a facilities fee bill for
"There was not even a letter that the next time you visit there'll be a fee," Andrae said. "We're all used to (price) increases, but when it's six or seven times more than what you're expecting, it hurts."
Andrae said he's concerned others could make health decisions such as stop taking medications or seeing a doctor due to the facilities fees.
"I don't know anybody who can handle an extra
"It depends on what type of insurance whether the patient feels those costs," Hall said. "People on Medicare and Medicaid might not feel it. But those who have policies through their employer or privately buy insurance are."
While the facilities fee would apply toward the person's insurance deductible, "That's not the point," Hall said. "The point is you have to pay that deductible and you might otherwise not feel that deductible.
"It's so, so important that our community has a hospital and I feel it's important the community has an independent hospital," she said. "However, the challenge for the hospital is to provide to the community at an affordable rate. The problem is their facilities fees aren't affordable to most."
Dealing with complexities
Rhoten and
"It really is unique to the individual — what potentially their charge or outcome can be and that's what's so difficult to articulate in a way people understand," Pandolph said.
He points out that those who are paying for insurance coverage — either through an employer or purchasing on their own — are in high-deductible insurance plans compared to 10 to 20 years ago
"These things happened in the past, but you didn't notice because insurance was covering the majority the cost which was provided by your employer," Pandolph said of fees. "High-deductible plans are being chosen because they seem more affordable. The monthly payment is lower, but then you go access health care and you have a significant out of pocket (expense). Lots of people get frustrated."
Keeping OB/GYN care, especially obstetrics, available locally was a conscious decision by the hospital as it was a private practice looking for a partner to remain financially viable.
"We chose to be that partner to preserve obstetrics and gynecology in the community," Rhoten said. "It was to make sure you didn't have 70 miles between
"When we converted it to a department of the hospital, should we have put out an announcement to the patients? Probably," he added.
"We feel it's really important to preserve access to obstetric care in our community," Pandolph said. "In community hospital settings like ours, they're expensive to run and high risk — and they provide a really important service."
Maintaining independence
Both Pandolph and Rhoten said the hospital has to look at the broader picture to maintain its independence.
"In the last 14 years the hospital has lost money six of those years," Rhoten said. "It's a challenging balance to weigh how you maintain services, work best to maintain the health of our community and maintain the financial viability, not only for those services but the entire system at large."
A Tribune review of
In the 2008 through 2021 period,
When asked to clarify the discrepancy, hospital officials explained that the entire
In documents provided to the Tribune, the entire Meadville Medical Center Hospital System had an average net loss of
"In the long run, while in isolation, people may be able to get a service less expensively in an office somewhere outside the community, but when they look at their broader scope of health care needs we're a low-cost provider," Pandolph said.
MMC is one of the only providers in many services that takes Medicaid, Pandolph said. Medicaid is a state medical care plan funded by the federal government that pays for public assistance recipients.
"We take Medicaid in almost everything we do and take pride in serving those that are dependent on Medicaid for their insurance," Pandolph said. "We pride ourselves in serving those most vulnerable. We've done it for decades and we'll continue to do it and we'll continue to find a way to do it."
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