2Q 2023 Earnings Conference Call Transcript
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SIGI.OQ - Q2 2023 Selective Insurance Group Inc Earnings Call
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C O R P O R A T E P A R T I C I P A N T S
C O N F E R E N C E C A L L P A R T I C I P A N T S
Jack
P R E S E N T A T I O N
Operator
Good day, everyone. Welcome to
Thanks, and good morning. We are simulcasting this call on our website, selective.com, and a replay will be available until
Thank you, Brad. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. The second quarter property casualty industry results were impacted by elevated catastrophe losses. We were no exception, and these losses affected all 3 of our underwriting segments driven mainly by storms in our Midwest and
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retentions. In Commercial Lines, our flagship segment, new business was up 23%, renewal rate was 6.7% and exposure growth was 4.6%. Across new and renewal, Commercial Lines exposure counts were up a manageable 3%, highlighting the impact of rate and exposure. Personal Lines and E&S also turned in excellent growth of 32% and 20%, respectively. Our proven disciplined execution has positioned us well, and our underlying combined ratio was 90% in the quarter and 90.5% year-to-date. There are 3 main reasons for the improved underlying combined ratio. Lower non-catastrophe property losses year-to-date, continued benefit from the renewal pure rate and a lower expense ratio due to expense discipline and top line growth. Most importantly, our strong investment income and underlying profitability allowed us to generate an operating ROE in line with our target for the first half of the year and maintain our full year combined ratio guidance despite increasing our catastrophe loss assumption to 6 points from 4.5 points.
Weather is inherently volatile, but we have robust risk management, including a prudent reinsurance program, strong aggregation management and a predominant underwriting focus on low to medium hazard risks. Our long-term combined ratio target of 95% is embedded in our pricing plans. Consequently, we should be able to generate ROEs at or above our 12% target given elevated interest rates and a significant ROE contribution from investments, assuming catastrophe losses are at a normalized level. With our strong capital position and underlying profitability, we continue to pursue attractive growth opportunities, including increasing agency market share and share of wallet in existing states, expansion of excess and surplus lines capabilities, transitioning to a mass affluent portfolio in personal lines and targeted geographic expansion. Geographic expansion is a lower risk way for us to deploy capital. We have a repeatable process and successful approach that is allowing us to accelerate this critical organic growth opportunity. Since 2017, we've added 8 states to our Standard Commercial Lines footprint. These states contributed 2 points of premium growth in the first half of '23. We plan to introduce 5 new states to our standard Commercial Lines footprint over the next 2 to 3 years.
Overall, Selective is operating from a position of strength. We have the capital to support growth, well-established and differentiated relationships with our distribution partners and the organizational capability to drive disciplined execution to enhance profitability. In a market disrupted by underwriting and appetite changes and increased frequency and severity of weather-related and liability losses, we continue to be a stable carrier for our distribution partners.
In early July, we published our third sustainability report. As the industry experiences heightened frequency and severity trends, the report highlights our robust risk management processes that enhance our organization's sustainability. Our strategy includes bringing value to our employees, customers and distribution partners, which drives returns for our shareholders. Ultimately, our people and the relationships they foster are our
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most enduring competitive advantage and drive the superior financial performance we've generated in recent years. I am confident we have the strategy and execution-oriented culture to continue delivering profitable growth. With that, I will tuthe call over to Mark to review our financial performance in more detail.
Thank you, John, and good morning. I will focus my comments on providing some more detail on our underwriting and investment performance, capital position and our full year guidance. Before doing so, I'd like to reiterate John's opening point. Despite elevated catastrophe losses in the first half of 2023, we have delivered a 12.2% non-GAAP operating ROE, and we are on track to exceed our 12% ROE target this year. While the second quarter underwriting result was not where we wanted to be, a strong premium growth, underlying underwriting profitability and higher net investment income position us well to achieve our full year targets as we move into the second half of the year. As preannounced on
As it relates to our Insurance segment, I'd like to highlight the solid underwriting performance in standard Commercial Lines, with a 97.1% combined ratio despite 8.2 points of cat losses and an underlying combined ratio of 89.9%, 1.7 points improved from the prior year period. While our E&S segment experienced a 100.7% combined ratio due to 17.6 points of cat losses, the underlying combined ratio of 83.1% was strong and almost 10 full percentage points better than the prior year period. It was clearly a disappointing quarter in personal lines from an underwriting profitability perspective with a 126.5% combined ratio driven by 24.3 points of cat losses, non-CAT property losses running 6.2 points higher than last year, 4.6 points of prior year reserve development and continued pressure on the current accident year in personal auto.
Returning to investments. Our portfolio remains very well positioned. As of
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in higher new money rates for longer while managing our overall duration and credit quality targets. This will provide more stability in our forward investment ROE contribution over the next few years. We put
I'll conclude with an update on our guidance. For 2023, we increased our expectations for net catastrophe losses while maintaining other full year expectations as follows: a GAAP combined ratio of 96.5% including 6 points of catastrophe losses, up from 4.5 points previously. This assumes no additional prior accident year reserve development. After tax net investment income of
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We will now begin the question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from the line of
Just maybe a little bit more thoughts on the property underlying doing as well as it is. It seems to be going in a little bit different direction than other folks of late. I would have thought there would be a fairly significant claim cost inflation on an underlying basis in those kind of businesses. So maybe there's a business mix difference from others or something along those lines that you've done something different to give you those good results?
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