Navigating the Downsides of Advice-Based Compensation - Insurance News | InsuranceNewsNet

Advisor News

Sign in
  • Subscribe
  • About
  • Advertise
  • Contact
Home Now reading Advisor News
Topics
    • Advisor News
    • Annuity Index
    • Annuity News
    • Companies
    • Earnings
    • Fiduciary
    • From the Field: Expert Insights
    • Health/Employee Benefits
    • Insurance & Financial Fraud
    • INN Magazine
    • Insiders Only
    • Life Insurance News
    • Newswires
    • Property and Casualty
    • Regulation News
    • Sponsored Articles
    • Washington Wire
    • Videos
    • ———
    • About
    • Meet our Editorial Staff
    • Advertise
    • Contact
    • Newsletters
  • Exclusives
  • NewsWires
  • Magazine
  • Newsletters
Sign in or register to be an INNsider.
  • AdvisorNews
  • Annuity News
  • Companies
  • Earnings
  • Fiduciary
  • Health/Employee Benefits
  • Insurance & Financial Fraud
  • INN Exclusives
  • INN Magazine
  • Insurtech
  • Life Insurance News
  • Newswires
  • Property and Casualty
  • Regulation News
  • Sponsored Articles
  • Video
  • Washington Wire
  • Life Insurance
  • Annuities
  • Advisor
  • Health/Benefits
  • Property & Casualty
  • Insurtech
  • About
  • Advertise
  • Contact
  • Editorial Staff

Get Social

  • Facebook
  • X
  • LinkedIn
Advisor News
Advisor News RSS Get our newsletter
Order Prints
June 19, 2017 Advisor News
Share
Share
Post
Email

Navigating the Downsides of Advice-Based Compensation

By Juliette Fairley

When RIA regulators arrived at Safe Harbor Financial Advisors’ offices in May for an inspection, the Virginia state examiners had no problem with hourly rate compensation.

“They spent a day in the office looking through our books and records to make sure we had a continuity of operations plan and that we were not falsely advertising our services for what clients pay,” said George Reilly, a CFP who charges $240 an hour for financial advice.

As long as the client is not locked in and can quit anytime they choose, the state inspectors communicated to Reilly, advice based compensation is acceptable.

"Under service offerings on our website, we post our rates and payment terms are stated clearly in an engagement agreement that clients sign,” Reilly said. “The stipulation they require is that an ongoing payment schedule be consistently disclosed.”

Passing muster with regulators is just one obstacle that financial advisors face when developing an advice-based compensation business. Other challenges include establishing a baseline for hourly pay, helping clients understand why they are now charged for financial advice that was previously complimentary and increasing the number of clients to make a profit.

The problem with setting an hourly rate for financial advice, for one thing, is that there is no baseline or norm for what to charge. It ranges from $150 an hour up to $500.

“What an advisor charges is completely subjective,” said Garrett Donnelly, founder and CEO of Donnelly Investments in Atlanta. “Each of us has an economic bias, which is to make money from the professional advice that we provide. It’s a question of finding the proper balance between my economic bias and doing what’s right for the client without taking advantage of them financially.”

Retraining clients to pay for wisdom they have been accustomed to receiving as part of assets under management is another common challenge.

“To combat this, advisors need to clearly define the advisor-client relationship as financial planning and not asset management,” said Eric Lai, CFP and founder of Archvest Wealth Advisors in Walnut Creek, Calif. “If your last name is within the title of your firm, it's not a financial planning-based business.”

CFP Randall Bruns in Illinois is currently transitioning away from the traditional AUM model and towards charging an hourly fee of $250.

“To show a new client the value of paying for my financial knowledge, I use a chart that displays the toxic impact of percentage-based fees on real, inflation-adjusted wealth,” Bruns said. “I also show them a simple summary of what an end product’s performance might look like in an hourly relationship.”

When financial advisors switch to an hourly payment model, some are finding that they must accommodate a higher number of clients to make a profit.

“I split my hourly rate for financial planning and investment advice,” said Michigan-based CFP Robert Schmansky, who charges $250 an hour for planning and $350 for investment-related advice. “Hourly clients don't realize the actual amount of work that goes into managing a portfolio or the number of questions and problems they'll have along the way. I try to discourage it by charging more.”

Juliette Fairley is a business and finance journalist who has written four personal finance books for John Wiley & Sons and has written for major news organizations, such as The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal. She is a member of the American Society of Journalists and the New York Financial Writers Association and a graduate of Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism. Juliette can be reached at [email protected].

© Entire contents copyright 2016 by AdvisorNews. All rights reserved. No part of this article may be reprinted without the expressed written consent from AdvisorNews, powered by InsuranceNewsNet.

 

Juliette Fairley

Juliette Fairley is a business and finance journalist who has written four personal finance books for John Wiley & Sons and has written for The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Street and many other publications. She is a member of the American Society of Journalists and Authors, the New York Financial Writers Association and a graduate of Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism. Juliette can be reached at [email protected].

Older

States Pushing Fiduciary Rule Standards (With Success)

Newer

Survey: A Tough Year for Insurance and Annuities

Annuity News

  • Best’s Special Report: U.S. Life/Annuity Industry Sees Bottom-Line Growth Despite 18% Decline in Total Income in First-Quarter 2026
  • Globe Life Inc. (NYSE: GL) Records 52-Week High Thursday Morning
  • Fortitude Re Completes $500 Million FABN Issuance
  • Reframing retirement income for greater certainty
  • Jackson Introduces Dow Jones Industrial Average Index Option, Flexible Premiums, Six-Year Rate Guarantee in Latest Registered Index-Linked Annuity Launch
More Annuity News

Health/Employee Benefits News

  • Report: Rural Virginia hospitals at risk of closure
  • JasonRhodesnamed to Shelbyville CityCouncil
  • Getting disability benefits got harder after the Social Security Administration changes
  • Capitol Beat: Scott's veto signatures piling up
  • Rising ACA premiums spur pivot to cheaper plans
More Health/Employee Benefits News

Life Insurance News

  • OVER $107 MILLION IN LIFE INSURANCE BENEFITS LOCATED FOR TENNESSEANS IN 2025 THROUGH NAIC'S LIFE INSURANCE POLICY LOCATOR SERVICE
  • Maryland Heights man pleads guilty in murder-for-hire death of his mom
  • AM Best Affirms Credit Ratings of Everlake Life Group Members
  • Industry experts warn NAIC: Fix flawed IUL illustrations now
  • InsuranceAUM.com Celebrates a Historic 5th Annual Insurance Investment Executives’ Meeting in Chicago, Honoring Outstanding Industry Leaders and Spotlighting Next Event in Austin
More Life Insurance News

Property and Casualty News

  • Polling shows Midwestern voters concerned about home insurance cost
  • Stranded ships hoping for escape find a turbulent Strait of Hormuz
  • Polling shows Midwestern voters concerned about home insurance cost
  • FACT FOCUS: Trump says illegal immigration increased car insurance premiums. Experts say otherwise
  • ‘Low-risk’ homes are flood-exposed as storm season begins
More Property and Casualty News

NEWS INSIDE

  • Companies
  • Earnings
  • Economic News
  • INN Magazine
  • Insurtech News
  • Newswires Feed
  • Regulation News
  • Washington Wire
  • Videos

FEATURED OFFERS

Maximize Your FIA Case Results
Learn a repeatable process to review, reposition, and present FIA opportunities with confidence.

Aim higher during Annuity Awareness Month
Raise the bar with our diverse portfolio of Ascend annuities, backed by superior financial strength

You Could Be Losing Up to 20% of Your Commissions
GreenWave helps you find, fix, and prevent commission errors.

True Independence Means Having Choices
Cambridge offers flexibility, stability, proven tools—no private equity strings attached.

Life moves fast. Your BGA should, too.
Stay ahead with Modern Life's AI-powered tech and expert support.

Looking for stronger rates, amplified growth & real results?
Sentinel's Accumulation Protector Plus℠ Annuity is for clients wanting more from retirement planning

Press Releases

  • Prosperity Life GroupSM Launches Prosperity PathWaySM Series, Bringing Greater Choice and Flexibility to Retirement Income Planning
  • Senior Market Sales® Fortifies Annuity Reach With Acquisition of Retirement Planning Firm Stratton & Company
  • RFP #T01625
  • Rockwood Programs Appoints Kerry Ladouceur as Vice President, Financial Lines
  • JP Insurance Group Launches Commercial Property & Casualty Division; Appoints Joe Webster as Managing Director
More Press Releases > Add Your Press Release >

How to Write For InsuranceNewsNet

Find out how you can submit content for publishing on our website.
View Guidelines

Topics

  • Advisor News
  • Annuity Index
  • Annuity News
  • Companies
  • Earnings
  • Fiduciary
  • From the Field: Expert Insights
  • Health/Employee Benefits
  • Insurance & Financial Fraud
  • INN Magazine
  • Insiders Only
  • Life Insurance News
  • Newswires
  • Property and Casualty
  • Regulation News
  • Sponsored Articles
  • Washington Wire
  • Videos
  • ———
  • About
  • Meet our Editorial Staff
  • Advertise
  • Contact
  • Newsletters

Top Sections

  • AdvisorNews
  • Annuity News
  • Health/Employee Benefits News
  • InsuranceNewsNet Magazine
  • Life Insurance News
  • Property and Casualty News
  • Washington Wire

Our Company

  • About
  • Advertise
  • Contact
  • Meet our Editorial Staff
  • Magazine Subscription
  • Write for INN

Sign up for our FREE e-Newsletter!

Get breaking news, exclusive stories, and money- making insights straight into your inbox.

select Newsletter Options
Facebook Linkedin Twitter
© 2026 InsuranceNewsNet.com, Inc. All rights reserved.
  • Terms & Conditions
  • Privacy Policy
  • InsuranceNewsNet Magazine

Sign in with your Insider Pro Account

Not registered? Become an Insider Pro.
Insurance News | InsuranceNewsNet