Clearing the Air on the ICD-10 Transition
By Hagland, Mark | |
Proquest LLC |
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AHIMA's leaders say they continue to do everything possible to help healthcare organizations prepare for the transition, while making it clear that they will oppose any further delays, and speaking out against what they see as myths propagated by the opponents of the ICD-10 coding system.
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LESS NEGATIVITY SURROUNDING THE ISSUE
Healthcare Informatics: In interviews I've done recently, I've heard some pushback about the usefulness of the ICD-10 system. Are you hearing any pushback right now?
It's a public process, where people can submit proposals for new and expanded codes. And so even from the development to how it's being maintained now. On the one hand, you hear people complaining about the detail and specificity of it; but it's physician organizations that want more codes-which is kind of funny.
HCI: Is it correct that ICD-10 in this country will be different from the ICD-10 systems in other countries, with 10 times the codes of other ICD-10 systems? That's what a few people have told me.
Bowman: No, that's not entirely correct. The first few digits have to be kept standardized internationally; but beyond the first few digits, codes can be expanded for your specific country's needs. Within the constructs of the code sets of the international system, you have to maintain stability in the first few characters. A lot of the specificity we've added is not new diseases; it's specific details about anatomy; but a significant percentage is around laterality-left or right side. If you can code broken left arm or broken right arm, that doubles the number of codes right there; but it doesn't add to the complexity of the system; indeed, it provides clinical clarity that speaks to patient safety. Of course, hopefully, laterality is already being documented in the medical record.
HCI: Are those expressing dissatisfaction just a few isolated grumblers?
Bowman: It's like with anything else; the negative people tend to be louder; but the vast majority of people, including physicians, is in support of the ICD-10 transition, and realizes we need to replace ICD-9 after 35 years of use. You'd think, of any country, that we'd have more motivation than anyone else to change systems, for all the reasons we use healthcare data. If you think of how things were in the 1970s-it's just a different environment today inpatient care.
MORE PHYSICIANS ARE READY TO MOVE AHEAD
HCI: Do you think everyone's pretty much ready at this point?
Bowman: Yes, and interestingly, I've heard from a number of physicians in practice who weren't happy with the delay, including my own personal physician. My physician said,' I'm the kind of guy who follows directions, and turns in his homework on time. Now I'm going to have to keep my staff trained and systems up; and so the delay is going to cost more money for everyone except for those who did nothing-why are we rewarding them?' I think we've gotten so lost in arguments that some people have lost sight of why we're doing this. We're doing this to get better data, not just for the U.S., but to share globally around things like global health threats. Healthcare today is global, just like everything is global.
HCI: Should people be doing dual coding now?
Bowman: Yes, a lot of organizations are doing dual coding to keep their coders in ICD-10 practice, because a lot of people have already been trained; otherwise, they'll forget it. Also, people are using that dual-coding data to assess reimbursement effects and payment mix. Instead of hypothesizing how ICD-10 might affect them, they can see it in real data.
HCI: What percentage of hospitals and medical groups are doing dual coding?
Bowman: I'm not sure of the exact percentage. Probably not the smaller practices; it does take additional time to dual-code. I would imagine it would be hospitals and larger practices.
HCI: Has anyone shared with you what they've done with this?
Bowman: Yes, we had something on that in a white paper that we produced after an ICD-10 summit. Obviously, this is giving people more practice in ICD-10, which means that on the transition date, hopefully, the impact will be considerably less, because they will have been coding in ICD-10 for some time at least in some records; the other thing is that the training for ICD-10 has actually improved coding for ICD-9. It's also pointed out that the ICD-9 coding isn't all that great.
When you talk about the impact of ICD-10 on coding accuracy, then you discover that actually, ICD-9 coding wasn't optimal to begin with, so the training is helping to strengthen core coding principles and practices. Some people going through ICD-10 coding training may never have had formal ICD-9 coding training. A lot of people coming to ICD-10 training just sort of picked up ICD-9 on the job.
HCI: What should CIOs know about all this?
Bowman: They should know that this isn't simply an "HIM thing." Now, certainly, CIOs should know that this is an enterprise-wide transition. Codes, underneath the surface, are driving different initiatives. When people begin doing their assessments, they have a lot of surprises about places where codes are used, not just in claims. I can send your our preparation checklist; but some things are disease management programs, where they use ICD-9 codes to identify patients; registration for medical necessity-when the patient registers, a lot of times, a code is put into the system to match data against any review policies, to make sure it will be a covered service by a payer, so, eligibility. I've even heard of things like OR scheduling systems, where the codes are used to identify patients.
REASON FOR OPTIMISM
HCI: Overall, how do you feel about what's going on right now?
Bowman: I feel pretty good. I know that with the delay, some momentum was lost. 'Ihere's some skepticism-some people think it could still be delayed again-but I've seen a lot of evidence that people are moving forward. I'm glad to see CMS come out with testing information, because that's the stage people need to get to next, 'there are a lot of strong messages out there around what needs to be done. A year seems like a long time, but it really isn't. Don't wait until the last minute.
HCI: And physicians shouldn't be afraid?
Bowman: No, they really shouldn't. There's been so much fear-mongering out there, but once physicians experience it, they say, oh, this isn't so bad. It turns out that many of the codes have been created by their own medical specialty societies, and they're still only going to be using a small subset of codes that they typically use in their area. You can still use a super-bill; you've still got your list of common conditions. All you have to do is translate the codes you use already into ICD-10 codes.
HCI: There will be more codes, but it won't be overwhelming for individual physicians?
Bowman: Right. In a lot of cases, they might find the terminology of the codes closer to how they document to begin with. An example I use is asthma. In ICD-9, it's broken down into terms like "extrinsic" and "intrinsic," terms that no physicians have used for years in documenting; instead, asthma under ICD-10-the vocabulary has been updated to terms physicians use today. And the physician community had a lot to do with modernizing that terminology.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING PHYSICIANS, IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ICD-10 TRANSITION, AND REALIZES WE NEED TO REPLACE ICD-9 AFTER 35 YEARS OF USE. -
I'M GLAD TO SEE CMS COME OUT WITH TESTING INFORMATION, BECAUSE THAT'S THE STAGE PEOPLE NEED TO GET TO NEXT. THERE ARE A LOT OF STRONG MESSAGES OUT THERE AROUND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. A YEAR SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME, BUT IT REALLY ISN'T. DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE. -
A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING DUAL CODING TO KEEP THEIR CODERS IN ICD-10 PRACTICE, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TRAINED; OTHERWISE, THEY'LL FORGET IT. ALSO, PEOPLE ARE USING THAT DUAL-CODING DATA TO ASSESS REIMBURSEMENT EFFECTS AND PAYMENT MIX. -
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