Is Maine Maritime better than Harvard? Probably, if ‘you want to go to sea and be an engineer.’
He decided to answer it, and go deeper. In a new report released this week, he not only found that college is generally worth it. But he also ranked more than 4,500 colleges and universities across the country to determine which ones are most worth the time and money.
The report from
The surprising takeaway in
That figure, net present value, takes into account the cost of attending each institution and graduates' earnings, drawn from federal databases. Overall, the
Maine Maritime is an outlier on the top 10 list for more than one reason: It's the only higher-education institution from
But does this mean it's better than Harvard? The answer is: It depends.
For students who know they want to be engineers and work on boats, probably so, Carnevale said. Maine Maritime offers a limited range of educational programs compared with Harvard. Those programs are mostly in engineering or related fields, which lead to high-paying occupations.
"If you know you want to go to sea and be an engineer, go to
However, most students don't know what they want to do in college, Carnevale said. In that case, it's better to choose an institution that offers a higher return on investment and plentiful options for programs of study.
"So, if you have perfect test scores and all the money in the world, and you don't know what you want to do, go to Harvard," he said.
In the report, colleges and universities are classified based on the kind of degrees they primarily award: certificates, two-year associate's degrees or four-year bachelor's degrees. If an institution awards more than one kind of degree, it is classified under the kind of degree it awards most commonly.
"The difference between 10 and 40 [years] is of consequence," Carnevale said. "Ten years out a certificate may well outperform a four-year degree. Later on, a four-year degree, on an average, tends to catch up."
The report can be a tool for students to look at to understand what their options are, but it only presents institution-level information on return on investment without explaining why the rankings are what they are, said Carnevale, who cautioned students need guidance from a college counselor to make best use of the information.
"If you're a student who's 16 years old, and you're looking out to the future and what you're going to do after high school, this is worth a glance," he said. "The question that's raised by every one of these [rankings] is, 'why?' The data raises more questions than it answers."
Another advantage for those large, prestigious private universities is those institutions' higher graduation rates. Harvard,
"The people who don't graduate don't tend to make as much as those who do," he said.
A major limitation of the
"The institution's important because the institutions decide what it costs, and the institutions are better and worse at graduating students," he said. "But there is more variation by program than there is variation by institution."
Carnevale said a new report on program-specific returns on investment will be released in the next few weeks.
As for the theater question, "I'm guessing the answer will be it's better to major in theater at Colby, because if you go to Colby and get a four-year degree, it'll have value even though you don't work as an actor," said Carnevale, a Colby alumnus. "If you go to theater school and don't become an actor, you're probably not going to make much money."
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